{"id":618635,"date":"2021-03-24T11:30:04","date_gmt":"2021-03-24T15:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.steelcase.com\/?p=618635"},"modified":"2023-01-14T00:21:52","modified_gmt":"2023-01-14T05:21:52","slug":"diversity-in-design-qa-with-gabrielle-bullock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.steelcase.com\/research\/articles\/topics\/design\/diversity-in-design-qa-with-gabrielle-bullock\/","title":{"rendered":"Diversity in Design: Q+A with Gabrielle Bullock"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-center \"><p>\u201cThe reason we\u2019re having conversations around diversity is because there\u2019s not enough representation. There are whole sections of society excluded from the design profession.\u201d<\/p><cite>Gabrielle Bullock<span>Director of Global Diversity, Perkins&amp;Will<\/span><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n<p>As the second Black female to graduate from the architecture department of the Rhode Island School of Design in 1984, Gabrielle Bullock has been key to Perkins&amp;Will\u2019s success as both an award-winning principal and a social justice advocate. Gabrielle brings purpose to her profession, and she\u2019s done so throughout her many roles in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.steelcase.com\/research\/topics\/healthcare\/\">healthcare space design<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.steelcase.com\/discover\/information\/education\/\">higher education space design<\/a>, and now as director of global diversity. Her experiences at Perkins&amp;Will and in the communities the firm serves have driven her passion for advancing diversity and inclusion in the design profession far and wide.<\/p>\n<p>Gabrielle and the Perkins&amp;Will Diversity Council set the global strategy and focus for the firm\u2019s Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (J.E.D.I.) program, advancing the firm each year toward a more equitable and culturally competent organization.<\/p>\n<p><strong>360: What inspired your career in architecture and design?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Gabrielle Bullock:<\/strong> I grew up in the Bronx. Traveling through the city on my weekend visits to Queens I saw the public housing projects and experienced them first-hand. I immediately felt the inequity in the way low income Black and other people of color lived. As a kid I had considered myself an artist, so at 12 I decided I wanted to be an architect. I wanted to change the way my people lived.<\/p>\n<p>My goal when I graduated college was creating affordable housing. At the beginning of my career I worked for three housing firms that all went belly up during the 1980s recession. Moving forward, I wasn\u2019t interested in designing glossy skyscrapers or fancy homes. Whatever I did, I knew it had to have a purpose. This drive led me to begin designing for healthcare and eventually doing the work I do today.<\/p>\n<p><strong>360: Why is diversity in design so important and what barriers exist?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>GB:<\/strong> Diversity is important, but if you leave it at diversity, you\u2019re only checking a box or you\u2019re plugging in numbers. If you hire a certain amount of people in a demographic, you may think you\u2019ve done a good job. But what\u2019s wrong with that thinking is it\u2019s not the full picture. I would stress inclusion, equity, engagement, and justice. All of these combined are important to represent cultural competency and belonging in practice and design.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s important for designers to recognize that it\u2019s a failure if we don\u2019t become culturally competent in our designs and reflect what our constituents need. It\u2019s not about how many chairs are in the room or the color on the wall; it\u2019s about how the space feels and if it feels inclusive. For example, if I walk into a museum as a Black woman, do I feel welcomed? In some museums yes, in many others I don\u2019t. In some I feel as if it wasn\u2019t designed with me in mind because culturally it doesn\u2019t represent me. To design spaces with cultural competency, we must do the research to understand the history and lived experiences of the communities we\u2019re creating for, in order to better represent their culture in the space.<\/p>\n<p><strong>360: We often hear about the phrase DEI but you mentioned one of your focuses in J.E.D.I. is justice. What is the importance of justice and what does justice mean to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>GB:<\/strong> Justice is fairness and understanding not everybody starts off on an equal platform. It is about recognizing the injustices happening around you and the different ways racism is perpetuated through systemic and institutional structures. For instance, in architecture and land use, redlining has perpetuated injustices. Black people were told they could only live in certain parts of the city. Often, those neighborhoods were in less-than-ideal locations and not as invested in as others. Now, 50-60 years later, we have examples like South LA where people question why the neighborhood isn\u2019t taken care of when, at the very beginning, the neighborhood was created to keep Black people in a box.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-center \"><p>We must understand the injustice along with the policies and programs reinforcing it. We have to challenge the status quo and challenge our clients to recognize the injustices in their space.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>360: How can the physical environment help people feel more included at work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>GB:<\/strong> When designing for the workplace, it\u2019s important to take into account the different personal situations and experiences our people have. In the office, we need to get away from everything looking and feeling the same. It\u2019s essential to create a variety of spaces to allow for a diverse workforce to feel comfortable.<\/p>\n<p>At home, it\u2019s even more imperative to consider our workers\u2019 perspectives. With many working from home, there are inherent inequalities in employees\u2019 situations that affect how they\u2019re able to get work done. We cannot put the same blanket of expectation on everybody. We must get out of the status quo thinking that what worked yesterday will work today and that what may work for one works for all. I believe that, to move forward, we have to challenge every status quo decision that we\u2019ve made in the past\u2014from how we design a space to the criteria used in recruiting, hiring, and promoting individuals.<\/p>\n<p><strong>360: The past year has been exceptionally difficult for marginalized communities. How are you looking ahead after such a challenging year?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>All of the major challenges happening right now\u2014the downturn of the economy, the COVID-19 health crisis, and the racial injustices being brought to light\u2014I consider an opportunity for a reset for everybody.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-center \"><p>The design community is particularly slow to change but as some of the most creative people on the planet, we are in a unique position to really make an impact.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_618702\" aria-labelledby=\"figcaption_attachment_618702\" class=\"wp-image wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 1024px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-618702 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/steelcase-res.cloudinary.com\/image\/upload\/c_limit,dpr_auto,q_70,h_1024,w_1024\/v1616535110\/www.steelcase.com\/2021\/03\/23\/21-0155961.jpg\" alt=\"Diversity in Design - 360 DEI Article\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" \/><figcaption id=\"figcaption_attachment_618702\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gabrielle and her team are currently working on a 1.3 mile outdoor art and culture experience celebrating Black Los Angeles, named <a href=\"https:\/\/destinationcrenshaw.la\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Destination Crenshaw<\/a>. The community\u2019s contributions to the project impact the design process and help Perkins&amp;Will tell the community members\u2019 stories through the art and the experience.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>360: How do you approach finding ways to elevate and include more diverse perspectives in the design industry?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>GB:<\/strong> We have to stay curious and keep learning about other cultures and perspectives. The simplest way is sharing stories of diverse designers. Showing their work, hearing their lived experiences and learning what drives them. Lived experiences can tell a lot about the way we design and the way we impact the built environment.<\/p>\n<p>While we don\u2019t have to sell the business case anymore, it\u2019s now important for our teams and our leaders to be more culturally competent. We can\u2019t expect the handful of Black designers we have in this country to contribute to every project. We all have to learn how to design in any community by being curious and engaging the community in a meaningful way as a design partner.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-618713\" src=\"https:\/\/steelcase-res.cloudinary.com\/image\/upload\/c_limit,dpr_auto,q_70,h_100,w_100\/v1616599574\/www.steelcase.com\/2021\/03\/24\/21-0155962.jpg\" alt=\"headshot of gabrielle Bullock wearing glasses\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/> Gabrielle Bullock and her co-host Karen Compton tackle the uncomfortable conversation around race and inequity in design &amp; construction through the podcast series <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCzR18mnHuOspj9ILYX_mAVA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Breaking the Silence of Design.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Perkins&amp;Will\u2019s head of global diversity shares the importance of diversity in design and how to help people feel more included through design.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":20507,"featured_media":618638,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"topic":[47680],"class_list":["post-618635","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","topic-design"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.5 - 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